Windows 32bit Family XP RTM - 5.1.2600
XP SP1a - 1106
XP SP2 - 2180
Server 2003 RTM - 5.2.3790
Server 2003 SP1 - 1830
Server 2003 SP2 - 3959
Vista RTM - 6000.16386
Server 2008 Beta 3 - 6001.16510
Windows 64bit Family XP 64bit RTM - 5.2.3790.1830
XP 64bit SP2 - 3959
Server 2003 64bit RTM - 5.2.3790.1830
Server 2003 64bit SP2 - 3959
Vista 64bit RTM - 6000.16386
Server 2008 64bit Beta 3 - 6001.16510
Microsoft's latest desktop Windows Operating System update codename Longhorn is not due till 2006 yet the pre-beta builds have given people an insight into the ambitious goals Microsoft has for the future - and here we present LongHorn build 4083 for your review...
Although elements such as WinFS have now been dropped in order to allow Microsoft to hit it's target ship date (What was it you said Steve "December 31, 2006"?) these glimpses of the future of Windows are no less exciting.
Build #4083 was the build WinBeta originally expected to be released at WinHEC earlier this year but Microsoft chose to release build 4074.
This build is for AMD 64 bit cpus but do not be suprised to see a 32bit build released for you to test in the near future.
Posted by PretenderNX (3 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 11:08 am
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From those screenshots it looks like the sidebar has been taken out? Or have they just not had it open here?
Other then the sidebar I do not see people’s fascination with Longhorn, the title bars are hugely over-sized on explorer windows and the bulk is rather off-putting! Are people mainly interested because it is new?
Posted by Matt (132 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 12:09 pm
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I'd say you're right PretenderNX. Most of the excitement at the moment is because it is new. Lots of visitors here like to be out on the edge as it were with new software and hardware...
Posted by carvensno (7 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 4:50 pm
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i dont see what the biggy is, i would have thought they would be in the 5k build range by now, and what about the good stuff, winfs and the other a few others, without that it just another glorified winxp OS.
Posted by JabbaPapa (9 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 4:54 pm
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PretenderNX, I'm personally interested in the truly innovative stuff, like the WinFS and the Indigo.
I do like the Avalon eye candy, make no mistake, and it will be a good selling point, but as far as the core OS operating stuff is concerned, the best news I've heard in this last flurry of rumours is that MS have finally decided to shift to the 2k3 code base.
It really did take them too long to bite the bullet, didn't it ...
Posted by LightStar (1 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 5:09 pm
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Evidently I will have to learn the new UIS skinning format just to make this OS's GUI look decent. Microsoft really needs to hire some people with graphics talent if that is the best they can come up with. Sad, so sad .....
Posted by gcnaddict (52 posts) on Wednesday, Nov 10, 2004, 6:35 pm
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Send me more screenshots (sidebar especially) , see if dwm can be enabled, and if it can, send me the desksrvs and all .msstyles+screenies. I dont have an x86-64 chip so ill need to skin/port my desksrvs and logonUIs remotely.
Posted by The_Nightshift (414 posts) on Thursday, Nov 11, 2004, 2:42 am
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To respond to LightStar's comment as well...It's a temporary skin. Sorta like Watercolor in the XP betas. It'll last until around beta2, at which time we'll see the real final skin in all likelyhood. And basicly, it's there now so they can protect their final look until they decide it can be shown to the public
Posted by yorkpaddy (1 posts) on Thursday, Nov 11, 2004, 11:05 pm
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The screenshots dismay me. I still run Win2K and have run NT since 96. Microsoft has been adding more and more "eye candy" that just gets in the way and clutters the screen. I want to view data, not pretty icons and title bars that don't change. If you look at the new start button on XP it thrusts microsoft programs in front of you, and makes "all programs" relatively small. I know that you can change some of the settings, but most people won't and its dificult. I don't like the new bulbous buttons of XP, they don't tell me anything more, and take up more screen real estate, Trust me, I can deal with contrasting colors.
Posted by wifuzzy (1 posts) on Friday, Nov 12, 2004, 2:01 am
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I didn't read all the threads, so if someone said this already...ooopps. You guys ever use a Mac? Cause man does that ever look like a Mac. Not that that's a bad thing, Windows could do with a cosmetic make over, and a Mac aint a bad thing to copy in that regard.
Posted by nonsence (34 posts) on Friday, Nov 12, 2004, 2:23 am
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oh dear god! i hate the gui! lol. yes it's simple. which is good for some people. but for me and i think i speak for some others that are "advanced windows users". i hate it!
thank god it can be changed. HOPEFULLY!
i read there will be 3 gui settings. kinda like windows classic, windows xp, and i guess they are adding longhorn 3d features. that's all cool. but god damnit! i wish they would make it more modular instead of sticking internet explorer code into every peice of the gui. lol.
oh well. my fav gui is kde. followed by windows explorer..... and yes i like the command line from time to time. but i guess i'm the minority microsoft won't listen to. dang it. i just hope they don't botch this upgrade....
also would it kill them to take some screen shots of the system services running? i wanna see what the new behind the scenes programs are doing.
Posted by NetRolller 3D (2 posts) on Monday, Dec 27, 2004, 8:14 pm
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This build is strange... So strange that PROneTworks people say that it's fake. Maybe the sidebar is missing because it's not 4083, it's a changed 3683, or a mix of 4074 (64 bit) and 3683. There was another build (4183), which was also 3683. 4099 was 4029. And 5074 was 4074. so there are many fake builds on the net, but, if it's real, then excuse me for saying 4083 fake. A quick tip: Check whether the version has "My Computer", or "Computer". If the first (My Computer) is present, it's fake. If it's the second (Computer), then the build is real.
Posted by Mhi (4 posts) on Monday, Feb 21, 2005, 8:38 pm
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When will see the 32-bit version. Come on WinBeta I know you probably did this cause you know Microsoft hands out XP 64-Bit builds for free and you won't get it troubl ???!!! Anyways come on.
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i wanna see what the new behind the scenes programs are doing.
i'm out. thanks for the pics
